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The gryphons of Windsonde are limited to the following birds*.

:pointr:Expanded information and resources can be found here.
*Only exception being Tookie Island. Tookie Island was specifically created for other bird combinations.  Please read the info on the island for further details.

The hind end of Windsonde gryphons are restricted to felines. These may be either domestic breeds or wild species. Patterns may intermingle and become varied.
:pointr:Here is a Wikipedia article for ideas.

ONLY NATURAL COLORS EXIST ON WINDSONDE. Some gryphons enjoy dying their feathers, but this technique is primitive and often does not make for very bright colors.
    NOTE: It is impossible to dye large amounts of feathers and the technique is applied with the beak - so it is also imprecise. The dyes are also temporary and fade over the course of a week or two or are moulted/shed out.

Gryphons MUST have the following:
    :pointr:Ears
      Ears need to be visible and feline.

    :pointr:Feet
      Gryphons have four legs.  They may either have feline front paws or birdlike front paws. It's more a genetic thing than anything else, like hair color.  The difference is that those with feline feet are going to be much less dexterous when it comes to manipulating - but much quicker on four paws.  Those with bird front feet will have a much easier time manipulating or crafting with their hands, but slower when it comes to running.  Feline and bird feet are a luck of the draw genetic thing, so you may give your character whatever you wish - but just keep the previous pros and cons in mind.

    :pointr:Wings
      Reasonably realistically sized so that your gryphon can fly.

    :pointr:Tail
      Your gryph can have a feline tail or a combination of bird and feline, but not just bird.

    :pointr:Eyes

    :pointr:Beak

Please blend your two gryphon animals together when designing it.  We don't want to see two animals stitched together in the middle.

Size:  Mainland gryphons are, on average, lion size regardless of their feline or bird species.  Like normal animals they can vary to a degree (smaller than average, bigger than average), but nothing extreme.  Tookie Island gryphons are all, on average, house cat sized at the largest or smaller (down to hamster size).

Families: As far as families are concerned one or both of your gryphon's parents should have the traits (front end species and hind end species) of your gryphon. Therefore, the baby gryphons produced from the union of two gryphons should have traits from one or both of the parents. Simple as that.  NO blending of fore or hind-end species (it's one species of bird + one species of feline).  
    Example: A raven/tiger + golden eagle/lion could have the following babies:
      raven/tiger golden eagle/lion raven/lion golden eagle/tiger
    NOTE: We are NOT a gryphon breeding game, this information is being provided in case a challenge prompts you to draw your character's family or you want to draw them for fun.
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Acinoynx Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

I have a question, are humming bird griffins allowed? Because I saw a hummingbird combination in a "Challenge." It might have been from Tookie island, since practically any kind of bird combination that lives in tropical regions is allowed there.  Hummingbirds are one of my favorite birds so that's why I was asking :>

 

Oh, and this group seems to have a lot of potential. I can't wait to join! c: *scurries off to continue reading the rules*

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Bailiwick Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013
Hummingbird gryphs are totally allowed for Tookie Island, but the mainland ones are larger predatory birds and cats :)
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:iconacinoynx:
Acinoynx Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Alright, thank you :3
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Von-Morjo Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So i can't seem to find anything about accessories anywhere, and since some others seem to have them i wanted to ask: Is it possible for a gryphon to wear fx. Jewelry? and if yes, then what kind? I assume it is not metal, gold, silver ect since that is human technology. But maybe more leather and such. But still, is it possible for a gryphon to fx. wear beaded feathers in their fur? what kind of "interesting" stuff do they have access to, to make jewelry and accessories of? (if they do that)
I am sorry if this is a stupid question, i just thought that it might be better to ask instead of just assuming ^^;
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Bailiwick Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013
Sorry about the late reply! I've been super busy. Gryphons can definitely wear jewelry. It would be primarily bone, feathers, fur, twigs, coral/shells. If they trade with humans they might be able to get some metal fixings as well, but they would be rare to acquire. Natural items. Gems would be a yes as well, although they would be in their roughest form (not even the humans can do faceted stones like we know them today). 
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Von-Morjo Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
okay thanks you very much! 
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Myrethy Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
There doesn't seem to be a specific restriction against this, but I just wanted to clarify-are extinct species allowed in the feline half of the gryphon combination? I figured since the species of birds allowed was rather specific it was referring to species alive today, but the feline doesn't seem to have that requirement.
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Bailiwick Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2013
We take those case by case. There's only one or two "extinct" mixes, permission given to certain members because we felt it was ok for them alone. Overall though, there's so many birds and cats available out there that its really extremely strongly encouraged that members go for non-extinct animals first and foremost.
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Myrethy Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you for the clarification.
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Safury Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Are alternate color variations acceptable? Like, say a maltese or albino cheetah?
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:iconbailiwick:
Bailiwick Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Yep!
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:iconcomixqueen:
comixqueen Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yes, they are :)
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Aurora8911 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I would love to creat a character following these rules!
Can we create a folder(in our page) just for draw...hmmm...our Windsome characters?
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:iconbailiwick:
Bailiwick Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013
Yep!
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:iconkaiju-popsicle:
Kaiju-popsicle Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2012  Student General Artist
I was contemplating joining and was wondering: Could I create a blind character, or do they have to have sight?
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:iconbailiwick:
Bailiwick Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
I'd read the 'Rules and how to Join' journal very first, and very carefully. Then, if you meet those guidelines send us an application.

As far as blind characters they would be incredibly handicapped. They couldn't fly (that would be awfully dangerous!) and they would have to rely on others for practically everything. So I'm not sure how that would fit into most of our challenges.
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Kaiju-popsicle Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Student General Artist
I'll do that once my psycho vulture gryphon sits still long enough to give me his name.

I hadn't thought of that. Guess I'll just use my other character, whom I love twice as much.
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akyta680 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
One question: Can the color of the gryphons be same than the natural color but have a different shade to it?
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
For example?
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:iconakyta680:
akyta680 Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Let's say a gryphon that is a loggerhead shrike/domestic cat, and shrikes are gray. Can it still be a gray but have a more "blue-gray" tinge to it?
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That would be an animal for Tookie Island. It probably could, as long as it's a blue-gray like a cat or so. The best bet would be to show us an in progress thing.
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akyta680 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My gryphon isn't hat I explained before, I was just using it an example. But thank you :D.
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pureglory88 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2012
What if you have a gryphon from a different group, and you want to join this one. My gryphon has slightly different characteristics but is generally based on an asiatic lion and a bald eagle. Her feet are more dragon like, though that can be fixed. Could she be like an outsider coming in/visiting/got horribly lost?
This: [link]
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Andriu18 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Eyes can have any color?
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:iconsagekorppi:
SageKorppi Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Within natural reason.
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Andriu18 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Student General Artist
all right, thank you
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Viant-T Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012
Just curious, for future ideas of background/extras gryphons, but cranes, storks, water waders aren't acceptable for mainland gryphons, correct?
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Correct, those would be tookie islanders.
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:iconsynstematic:
Synstematic Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm finally getting to work on my gryph, and I was wondering if it would be okay to blend bird and feline paws/talons, perhaps just for the front or for all four. I've been giving it some thought, and figured I would ask before I did that.
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rydicanubis Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012
We have been fairly relaxed about this so far, and if you look through some of the ref sheets, you will see some characters that have a mixture like you are describing. If what you have in mind is similar to some of those things, you should have no problem. :}
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Synstematic Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright, thank you!
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TornTethers Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012
Me asking questions again. But I like to be sure.
I'm guessing Swallows, Swifts, Gannet's and Boobies would all be classified as Tookie Island dwellers? Or would any of these be allowed in any other aerie?
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:iconsagekorppi:
SageKorppi Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
All of those are Tookie Islanders, yes :)
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TornTethers Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2012
alright, thank you :)
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:iconchari-artist:
Chari-Artist Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Soo.. no shoebill storks for the mainland gryphons? |D
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Correct. But that would be AWESOME on Tookie Island!
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TornTethers Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2011
Would jays and magpies fit within the corvids? Or are we actually limited to ravens and crows?
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Magpies are okay, but no jays, per listed above...jays can be on tookie island.
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TheAntimonyElement Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a quick question--can you mix attributes of bird/cat forelegs? (For example, can you have feline forelegs with scaled pads like a raptor?)
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Sure :)
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RedStereoVirus Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
*Waved little white flag*
Question, if one was to make a dove/dragon/persian, what would it fall under?


Here's her looks:
[link]

She's
30% Hydro (water) furred dragon,
25% Persian Feline
45% Dove.


Orrrr
is she not allowed?
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:iconsagekorppi:
SageKorppi Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
No dragon bits allowed. Dove would be a Tookie Islander :)
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RedStereoVirus Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
D'aw..Alright, then.
Dx
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jlout8 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a question if someone where to make a cross with a peacock and a big cat would it have to be a Tookie Islander?
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:iconsagekorppi:
SageKorppi Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes.
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whereafter Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2011  Professional General Artist
Hm, I've read this whole article as well as all of the questions asked by people afterwards, and my question wasn't answered.
So here's my case ; I choose the Northern Harrier to be the avian half of my gryph. The thing is, I prefer the coloration of the Male northern Harrier (black/grey) than the female's (brown) and would like to use the natural male coloration for my female gryph.

Would that be allowed, or would I have to stick to the female coloration of a bird for a female gryph ?
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rydicanubis Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2011
There is a lot of flexibility in the marking of gryphs, given that you can mix and match the bird and cat halves. Just looking quickly through some pictures of Northern Harriers, it seems like there is a lot of variation in different subspecies, and even in individuals. I would not worry too much about male versus female markings, they are similar enough.
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Glowingskullcap Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Hello!

I haven't yet applied because I have a very specific question; the rules/breeds/types of felines and birds are fine, i'm just curious.. does it -have- to have wings, or can it not and be a strictly land dweller?

Thanks guys!
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SageKorppi Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Must have wings to start.
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xCh4rm1n5X Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm BAAACCCKKK~~
I asked about the cheetah and Osprey, is that ok~?
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